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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 16:59:20 -0800 (PST) hi HCN friends, star here, i visited that morning star ranch too. sometimes they even thought my name was morningstar but they are in fact very dogmatic theologically and like most religious communities do not abide by actual enlightened beings showing up in their midst. typical hypocrisy. being the actualization of what theuir religion hints at is usually unacceptable in msot religious communities. history repeats, real saints get persecuted by those who spew the prasies of the long dead ones. anyway, jeras letter was very well written. i agree that these disciples of yashua 12 tribes cult is very attractive for many reasons. but they only allow guests and visitors to be strict vegan, if their hook ever catches you and you become joined with them if they let you after many proofs and testings and time you keep trying to join the attractive Loving cult for all it's worldly benefits of close co-operative comeraderie etc; well, then when baptised in water literally then you must always acquiesce submit and obey their every wish will and whim. do as your told and eat what is offered, even meat, fish, fowl, eggs. yes they are aware of organics, living foods, raw foods, and the alternative or natural health aspects; just as christian seventh day adventists are open-minded that way regarding vegan and vegetarian natural health and other alternative or natural health and wellness lifestyles or methods. but any joiner must really submit to the group-think cult-mind, no individuality. i visited their farm in vermont years ago too. i met young idealists, folks not born and raised amongst the cult but joined as teens or young twenties. they told me in private that thye agreed with my vegan principles and more open-minded approach, but that thye themselves had once been strict pure vegans and eclectic respecting universal truth. but that thye wanted to give their life to something, and the disciples of yashua 12 tribes was just the closest to their vision they could find, and eventually decided worth it to submit and eat meat in order to join the caring close-knit mutually-supportive family. the morning star ranchers told me they plan to make arrangements for thjeir farm to host "WWOOFers", WWOOf = willing workers on organic farms also known as world wide opportunities on organic farms. presumably they'd not be slated for indoctrination and could retain their own sense of individual identity, as long as they behaved well onsite. but really they always want newcomers to become broken and trained to become another of the herd. they are very hospitable because they want you to join them; but if anyone is ever very strong in themselves and self assured and content in their own spiritual/philosoohical stance on life and wisdom etc, then they quickly issue an ultimatum of either submit to join or go away and do not return. they want the fabric of thjeir cult strenghtned with more joiners who submit to the entire dogma etc. if someone is ethical and gentle and trustworthy and kind and quiet etc it doesn't matter they still consider personal individual philosophical strength and spiritual independence to be a threat by it's mere presence. i suggest we use all such experiences as building blocks for the ultimate community: learn from all the good aspects and trade the remainder for that which is better. for example: they are sweet to sing and play instruments live an din person to keep workers happy, i saw that in kitchens at all communities of their i visited even in santa cruz a missionary outlet house for a while. if you must prep food and clean up afterward, doign dishes, etc, it sure is pleasant and heartening to be serenaded with live songs and live music from your community mates playing tunes just feet from where you are working. the farming and old fashioned styles, co-operative home-schooling, etc is all beautiful to behold. maybe some people can tolerate becoming a robot zombie cult member for the temporary worldy gain of a better life on earth with supportive tribe. if so, they do appear to enjoy benefits that most of seperatist america lacks. most folks are isolated and alone etc. so, the love cult appears attractive. then folks just have to decide if they are strong enough to retain their higher consciousnesss expanded awareness, or if they'd rather trade it for cozy co-op community. i think people of good conscience ought to eclectically blend the best aspects of all communities they visit, and co-create a new better best community model worthy of emulation. the common sense ethical codes of honor can be good glue to hold community together, it doesn't have to always be based on one narrow closed-minded dogma. as far as HCN is concerned, it is generally not considered natural nor hygienically healthy for humans to devour the rotting carcasses of salin beasts. and if god is Love and thou shalt not kill, then do we perceive a bit of hypocrisy in action protected by the ignorance of denial? therefore, since meat eating is forced and veganism is not allowed to baptized members of this cult, therefore theirs is not a naturally hygienic community. humans are supposed to evolve upward and help others do so as well. not lure people with lies to devolve backwards. maybe if these yashua disciples would embrace yashua the vegan essene and books by edmond bordeaux szekely [sp?], then they could someday grow beyond the demonic evil activity of slaughtering animals and consuming their bloody flesh [and forcing others to do so, whoever joins them must obey!]. meanwhile, we pure vegans of the world can accomplish much better higher healthier truer good intnetional communities! if we keep the courage to keep trying and not give up!
earnestly, Lord King Yobarian, http://www.infiniteStarLight.org 831-425-3334 LordLittlestarlibertyLafterLife@yahoo.com HCNNews@yahoogroups.com wrote: There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Morningstar Ranch From: "Jera"
Message: 1 In my ongoing search for the right intentional community for me I recently have been investigating Morningstar Ranch in Valley Center, California. I have just arrived home after my most recent trip there. I will probably conclude that the community is not right for me because decisions are made by a body of elders who are appointed by preexisting elders. There are no woman elders and there is a deep bias against appointing women as elders. Even if I could overlook the sexist bias (which I can't) there is something undemocratic about new council members being appointed by existing council members. People who join the community are expected to burn all bridges behind themselves. They give up cars, homes and possessions, and resign from jobs. If they like they can retain a trailer or motor home and park it on the ranch to live in. Otherwise, a couple or family will be provided a room, maybe two. An individual will have a bunk in a room with others of the same sex and some closet space. They are amazingly hospitable to visitors. They are friendly and inviting from the phone call on. They warmly greet you upon arrival, offering food and hospitality, refusing offers of payment. Their food is free of refined food products, largely fresh, and the only fish or meat served is that which is called clean in the Biblical book of Leviticus (no pork or bottom-feeding sea animals). They seem to serve a minimum of meat and dairy, and plenty of fruit and salad. Their deserts are made with whole grain and honey or raw sugar. Some of the community members eat raw foods as a (temporary) cleansing diet. They are utilizing alternate healing methods such as nutrition, herbs, massage, and the Hulda Clark zapper. They don't seem to own dogs or cats, but they do have farm animals such as cows, goats and chickens. They also have a large avocado and citrus grove, a garden and several ponds. They apparently own the property that the ranch is on. They call themselves the Twelve Tribes of Israel. They have a rather convoluted theology premised upon the 2000-year-old New Testament being applicable today. I feel like I just stepped out of a time warp. The women wear long skirts or baggy pants under tunics that hang to below the crotch. I did not see any jewelry being worn, no makeup, no fingernail polish, only practical shoes. The men's hair was uniform: long enough to wrap with a rubber band at the nape of the neck, and extending not more than two inches beyond the rubber band. The women's hair was long and covered by a nicely colored scarf during services. I saw some short pants on some men (but it is January, although somewhat warm). I did not see any women wearing either shorts or short skirts. I should have asked someone, "Can the women wear shorts in summer?" God, I hope so! The reason I came back for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th look is I love their music and dancing! That and the warm, cared-for feeling they impart to their guests. Their music is all acoustic with piano, accordion, drum, guitar, violin and flute. They do circle folk dancing while they sing lyrics praising Yaweh and Yeshua (the Hebrew names for God and Jesus.) Most of the people I met had Hebrew names, so possibly taking a Hebrew name is part of the initiation into the community. However the song lyrics themselves (other then the Yahweh, Yeshua and Meshia (Christ)) were all in English. There are a lot of children and teens in the community, and no toys. They have a few games like volleyball, and some of the dances are quite challenging. They have 2 businesses that I know of: one a construction business that is based in Glendale, California (about 100 miles away). Most of the young men and some couples live in Glendale throughout the week working in this business, and come to Morningstar Ranch for the weekends. They also sell fruit from the grove and other fruit that they buy and sell. No one goes to school off the ranch, so schooling the children, taking care of the communal meals, laundry and housekeeping is the job of those who don't work in the grove or construction business. They also make a lot of their clothes. The faces beaming love and happiness is what I will always remember and may lure me back for yet another visit. The children are sweet and well behaved and the youth are affectionate and happy. They would like to attract others to join their community and work shoulder to shoulder with them to expand the influence of the Twelve Tribes of Israel in the world. They believe that Yeshua is equivalent to God. They believe in submission to the authority of the body of believers, but not just a rote submission, a person must have a revelation and play an active role in being the expression of the will of Yahweh. Their key principle is that Yeshua is coming or has come in the synergistic worship of His collective body (my own wording as I understand their teachings). They draw a sharp demarcation between themselves and other religions. (Theirs is not a "religion," they equate "religion" with "dogma" which they disavow.) Although they teach the standard Christian doctrine that man and woman are sinners and that Yeshua died on the cross to save them, and only those who accept His gift are saved, they are not "Christians" or part of "Christianity." They believe in heaven, hell, and a third possible outcome, or three tiers of possible afterlife for the holy, the righteous and the damned. The holy are the Twelve Tribes of Israel, the righteous are all the good people who don't buy into their theology as they see it, and the damned are the wicked. Both men and women help with serving and cleanup. Both men and women share scriptures and personal insights during the services. Children, too, are encouraged to share. Both men and women play instruments, sing and dance. Some of the dances are so fast and strenuous that only the young men participate, but in many of the others everyone participates, even the small children.
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